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wlt,您好！

	那为什么不在那个脚本中增加一个输出，如print之类的语句呢？
    你的意思是说，比如 ：

    a = 10

    在pythonwin中运行后，可以得到a的值为10吗？

======= 2004-08-19 13:53:53 您在来信中写道：=======

>hehe,只是我的一个想法而已，因为我常用activepython自带的pythonwin写脚本，觉得这个功能不错  :-) 
>
>limodou wrote:
>
>>wlt,您好！
>>   还是不太懂。在一个程序中是global的，但它也只是那个程序的全局变量。运行结束自然就释放了。NewEdit运行程序使用的是启动另一个进程，无法得知另一个进程的信息。更何况这些信息在程序运行完也就释放了。
>>
>>   我看你用的一些工作有些都是商业版的，象BlackAddr, visual python。
>>
>>   NewEdit 主要观注的是编程，调试功能只是运行。没有断点、单步什么的。因为它的定位是编辑器，不是一个集成环境(虽然不知道以后会不会作成一个集成环境)。而且它还可以用于其它语言的编辑，是一个通用的编辑器。
>>	
>>
>>======= 2004-08-19 13:34:51 您在来信中写道：=======
>>
>>>就是说我在用pythonwin中F5运行完程序后可以直接在他的交互窗口察看global中的变量， 
>>>偶是新手，表述不清：）
>>>
>>>这两天测试了几个其他的ide,wingide 1.10是tk风格，太难看了，activestate的komodo漂 
>>>亮的不行，用mozilla framework做的，也是偶做perl时的最爱，不过最新版3.0在系统语言 
>>>是cp936(就是gbk)编码下根本不能用，中文英文xp我都试过， 2.5版还可以，可以用，虽然 
>>>不能输入中文：）
>>>Boa感觉比较怪，大概是用来做wx gui的吧，普通编程我看就不必了吧. BlackAddr看着不 
>>>错，qt的，不过偶找不到破解，就没实际测。还有个spe(http://spe.pycs.net/weblog/)， 
>>>wx 的，比较新，不过介绍功能还不少，支持wxglade，还有个测试正则的工具，类似 
>>>komodo。scite：被wx包裹进去了，没有类/函数列表，不爽：）Virual python，唯一一个 
>>>在用'.'列属性时，属性和方法用不同图标表示出来的。不过用它要装vs2003：（除了这点 
>>>感觉其他和komodo一样了。
>>>
>>>//
>>>
>>>limodou wrote:
>>>
>>>>Wei Litao,您好！
>>>>
>>>>	如果运行完程序后能像pythonwin切换到shell还能察看变量就好了
>>>>
>>>>   这是什么意思呀，能不能再解释一下。 
>>>>
>>>>======= 2004-08-18 23:54:42 您在来信中写道：=======
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>>Hello limodou,
>>>>>
>>>>>偶现在用它看代码，感觉还是满不错的，如果运行完程序后能像pythonwin切换到shell还能察看变量就好了：）
>>>>>
>>>>>Best regards, 
>>>>>
>>>>>======= At 2004-08-18, 18:43:34 you wrote: =======
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>>Zoom.Quiet,您好！
>>>>>>
>>>>>>	我会在2.5版出来后看能不能解决启动速度的问题。还有就是看能不能生成exe文件的问题。2.6版可能还会有很大的改动，这两个问题是2.6版的主攻方向。
>>>>>>
>>>>>>======= 2004-08-18 18:02:03 您在来信中写道：=======
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hollo limodou:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>支持！作为GUI 的代码库用也可以的！
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>就是启动速度实在是与VIM 有的一拼！
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>/******** [2004-08-18]18:01:26 ; limodou wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>limodou> python-chinese，您好！
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>limodou>    
>>>>>>>limodou> 有用NewEdit的打声招呼，让我也知道这东西有多大的价值好吧。好象大家对它没什么兴趣，也没什么希望啊。最近2.5版要出来了，增加了ftp远程打开保存文件功能，简单地项目管理功能，上下文敏感缩近，自动补齐(,[,{等功能(这个功能其实很小)。有兴趣地支持我呀。
>>>>>>>limodou> :P
>>>>>>>	
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>limodou> 　　　　　　　　致
>>>>>>>limodou> 礼！
>>>>>>>				
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>limodou> 　　　　　　　　limodou
>>>>>>>limodou> 　　　　　　　　chatme at 263.net
>>>>>>>limodou> 　　　　　　　　　　2004-08-18
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>********************************************/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>>Free as in Freedom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Zoom.Quiet                           
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>#=========================================#
>>>>>>>]Time is unimportant, only life important![
>>>>>>>#=========================================#
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>sender is the Bat!2.12.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>>>>　　　　　　　　致
>>>>>>礼！
>>>>>>
>>>>>>				 
>>>>>>　　　　　　　　limodou
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>>>>>wlt at bdjpumps.com
>>>>>2004-08-18
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>>>>　　　　　　　　致
>>>>礼！
>>>>
>>>>				 
>>>>　　　　　　　　limodou
>>>>　　　　　　　　chatme at 263.net
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>>　　　　　　　　致
>>礼！
>> 
>>				 
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